WMD’S FOUND IN LEBANON


As the US continues its search for WMD’S in Iraq, the UN found the very thing…. not in Iraq, not planted by Saddam’s forces, but in Lebanon…. Cluster Bombs planted by Israel with the aide of the United States.
Perhaps this is one of the reasons the US continued stalling on the implementation of the ceasefire. Now they are ‘going through the motions’ of investigating the UN findings in an attempt to show their non compliance in this particular crime.
Right! Israel acted alone!! The US had nothing to do with it!! Israel made their bombs out of sand!! The US did not supply weapons to them!! Oh… but wait… in the article below the US admits to giving Israel the cluster bombs…. but there was ‘a secret agreement’ for them not to use them.
If you believe that, then you believe that George Dubya Bush is intelligent enough to be President of the United States.

Below is a report from the Associated Press…. definitely worth reading.

U.N.: Cluster bombs litter south Lebanon
U.S. State Department investigates whether Israel broke agreements

Saturday, August 26, 2006 Posted: 0416 GMT (1216 HKT)
BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) — Homes, gardens and highways across south Lebanon are littered with unexploded cluster bombs dropped by Israel, the U.N. said Friday, and the U.S. State Department has reportedly launched an investigation.

“There are about 285 cluster bomb locations across south Lebanon, and our teams are still doing surveys and adding new locations every day,” said Dalya Farran, spokeswoman for the U.N. Mine Action Coordination Center, which has an office in the southern port city of Tyre.

“We find about 30 new locations per day,” she said.

This week, the U.S. State Department began investigating Israel’s use of American-made cluster bombs in south Lebanon, and whether their use violated secret agreements with Washington, The New York Times reported Friday.

State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos said Friday that the department was aware of the allegations about the cluster bombs. “We are seeking more information,” he said, but he declined to comment further.

Since a U.N.-brokered cease-fire took hold August 14, eight Lebanese have been killed by exploding ordnance, including two children, and 38 people have been wounded, according to a U.N. count.

“A lot of them are in civilian areas, on farmland and in people’s homes. We’re finding a lot at the entrances to houses, on balconies and roofs,” Farran said. “Sometimes windows are broken, and they get inside the houses.”

The State Department’s Office of Defense Trade Controls launched an investigation into Israel’s use of three types of American weapons, anti-personnel munitions that spray bomblets over a wide area, The New York Times reported.

The Israeli army said all the weapons it uses “are legal under international law, and their use conforms with international standards.”

The newspaper quoted several current and former U.S. officials as saying they doubted the probe would lead to sanctions against Israel, but that it might be an effort by the Bush administration to ease Arab criticism of its military support for Israel.

The U.S. has also postponed a shipment of M-26 artillery rockets — another cluster weapon — to Israel, the paper said.

United Nations demining experts refused to comment on the reported U.S. investigation into whether Israel’s use of such weapons might violate American rules, but suggested it violated some aspects of international law.

“It’s not illegal to use against soldiers or your enemy, but according to Geneva Conventions, it’s illegal to use them (cluster bombs) in civilian areas,” Farran said. “But it’s not up to us to decide if it’s illegal — I’m just giving facts and letting others do analysis.”

During the 34-day war between Israel and Hezbollah, Israel said it was forced to hit civilian targets in Lebanon because Hezbollah fighters were using villages as a base for rocket-launchers aimed at Israel. Some 850 Lebanese died in the fighting, compared to 157 Israelis.

Lebanon’s south is also riddled with land mines, laid by retreating Israeli soldiers who pulled out of the region in 2000 after an 18-year occupation. Hezbollah has also planted mines to ward off Israeli forces. Lebanon has long called for Israel to hand over maps of the minefields.

Russia dismisses claims on Hezbollah weaponry
The U.N. Mine Action Coordination Center opened a branch in Tyre in 2003, to deal with the issue of land mines. Since the cease-fire, the office has redirected its efforts toward clearing unexploded Israeli bombs from the area.

Also Friday Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov dismissed claims that Hezbollah has Russian-made Kornet anti-tank missiles.

Israel sent a delegation to Russia last week to complain about the missiles that it says were used by Hezbollah in the recent weeks of fighting in Lebanon; the missiles reportedly have been a particularly effective part of Hezbollah’s arsenal.

But Ivanov said during a trip to the Russian Far East city of Magadan that the reports are “complete nonsense,” news agencies reported.

“No kind of evidence of Hezbollah having such equipment has been presented to us,” Ivanov said, according to the Interfax news agency.

Cluster Bombs Lie in Wait for Lebanese Children

4 Comments

  1. CrazyComposer (aka Peter Amsel) said,

    August 26, 2006 at 13:39

    Be not deceived by this current obfuscation: this investigation by the “officials” has only one thing at its end … a report to the military, and the weapons manufacturer, detailing the failure of the weapons. Cluster bombs should NOT land unexploded, thus, there has been a serious weapons failure, and noting (NOTHING) upsets America more than the idea that one of its weapons contractors may have received its ham without returning at least some bacon … or is that sausage for having received the bun … or bun for having received the pork …? Whatever! The point is, the military (U.S.) needs to know if, the next time they are “defending the world against TERRORISM”, their expensive toys will work (as described by the glued on labels applied in the plant just outside of Columbine … Lougheed Martin … purveyors of death and destruction [Ok, of missile technology, but I can’t think of any bomb manufacturers off the top of my head – can you?]).

    There will be no justice for the civilian victims. Not with the present group in power. Not with the Idiot Emperor and his entourage in firm control.

  2. DesertPeace said,

    August 26, 2006 at 16:32

    Cluster bombs do not have to be dropped from the air, they can be strategacally placed by ground troops. Acoording to where these are being found, that’s what I suspect took place.
    An no, there will be no justice for the victims, but if there is a growing awareness, it won’t happen again.

  3. thecutter said,

    August 26, 2006 at 20:09

    Peter, at first, your idea sounded reasonable, but then, I thought about it some and come to a slightly different conclusion: the manufacturers “know” what their weapons do, and the fact that some of them are defective is usually due to temporal factors.

    My father in law (rest in peace) was almost an expert in the material, as he was an Italian official (and pacifist… yes, such a thing is possible, or at least, was) and often told me about the way that weapons have a short shelf life (they are designed that way so as to keep the production constant in peace time) and must be fired because they cannot be safely stored. Firing them is done in a few ways, with soldier training or with experimental operations. At times, they end up on the black market in war zones.

    Now, that preamble was to say, the manufacturers have better informers than the news services of the world, and they probably had more of a need to dispose of these weapons than anything else. And, besides, one does not sell weapons (or passt them off as aid) and then expect them not to be used! Of course they will, and unfortunately, I don’t have the hope that our wonderful host Desert Peace does, I believe that there will only ever be an increment in this kind of activity, with worse and worse weapons used more and more often against civilians in “test wars” also known as “preemptive wars”, “exportation of democracy” and “counter terrorism”.

  4. CrazyComposer (aka Peter Amsel) said,

    August 27, 2006 at 17:18

    The whole idea of weapons testing, in the “modern sense”, outside of the controlled military training milieu, came during the Spanish Civil War when the German Luftwaffe tested, practised and perfected its tactics during from 1936-1939. The use of the Condor Legion, which was Hitler’s contribution to Franco’s fascist goons, included the most modern machines of the day, including the Junkers Ju 87 Stuka dive-bomber and the infamous Messerchimitt Bf-109 fighter. Of course, the German markings were replaced with those of the Spanish Nationalists, but the Saint Andrew’s Cross of Franco and the Swastika of Hitler are close enough to tell the tale without subtitles.

    This testing of technology culminated with the first use of incendiary devices against a human population on April 26, 1937 when the Basque city of Guernica became the first city to fall victim to the postulated strategies of Italian General Giulio Douhet (who had proposed the idea of strategic bombing) and to be destroyed with incendiary devices.

    While I agree with you on certain points, Thecutter, I must also disagree in the sense that there are always assessors in the field after battles checking on the effectiveness of their munitions, their aim and all the other elements involved in the taking of life. Why else would the old World War II fighters have had cameras attached to their planes that were synchronized to their guns so that every shot was filmed? The official story is so that a “kill could be confirmed” (otherwise you needed an “eyewitness”, either your wingman or another source to confirm that the enemy plane went down), but the reality of the matter is that those films were studied in order to perfect the tactics involved in fighting, to observe any malfunctions in equipment, and most importantly, to fully gauge the effectiveness of the enemy technology.

    Wars are fought with far more than weapons; they are fought, and won, with information. Some would say intelligence, but I’ve always contended that “military intelligence” is an oxymoron … sort of like saying “George Bush and Harvard Graduate” in the same sentence and expecting it to refer to the same individual, without it being a joke … and without laughing … or crying. It is just too difficult.

    Regardless, the fact remains, a bomb has one purpose in its life: to explode. Mines are laid by people (or machines), or dropped by planes and helicopters, launched by rockets, deposited by submarines or ships, but … they are NOT bomblets. Bomblets EXPLODE. What the IAF was dropping was a very specialized piece of hardware supplied by the United States and it malfunctioned. I can assure you, Uncle Zion, I mean, Uncle Sam wants to know why, and they want to know why last Thursday.

    These are people with real problems – they don’t want to wonder if the next time they deploy a flight of fighter-bombers on a mission in Afghanistan or Iraq to destroy a school full of terrorists posing as young children learning how to read and count whether or not their bomblets, designed to produce the maximum amount of collateral damage possible in a small area, will turn into several fancy paperweights for Osama Jihad Elementary.

    Having said that, I will now say that I’ve checked some things … The IAF primarily flies the F-15, which can deliver the CBU-89 cluster bomb. This is a device that dord not deliver bomblets, as discussed, but rather the anti-personnel landmines that were mentioned earlier. This makes me question the reports: why refer to them as “unexploded cluster bombs” when they are really “mines”? It seems quite obvious that their intent was to create an area inhospitable to human movement, why now this obfuscation by saying something is what it isn’t.

    These “unexploded cluster bombs” will EXPLODE as soon as some innocent child runs over one, or sits down next to one and places something next to them, on an “unexploded” device. These are sleeping terrors, waiting to be activated.

    I am sorry for having suggested that there was anything defective … if these are from the CBU-89, well, it just further demonstrates that the State of Israel should be brought to the World Court on crimes against humanity (along with the United States, as the manufacturer of the weapon – and as a nation that has deployed them) for using weapons that the majority of democratic nations (save for the United States) have agreed to ban (thanks to an initiative begun by a Canadian).

    As for the testing of the weaponry … alas, poor Yorick, this I cannot withdraw.

    The F-15 used by Israel has never been defeated in an air battle. This is a record that the United States boasts about whenever they discuss one of the most expensive defence projects in the nation’s history (a plane built in response to the Mig-25, which, in the end was as fast as they feared … but couldn’t turn at speed … it was only a high speed interceptor and did not need the massive F-15 as a foil). Israel has been a tremendous proving ground for American weaponry, and will remain so for years to come.

    Uncle Zion … I mean Sam … can’t afford to lose the results of the tests.

    (NB: Uncle Zion is not a reference to the worldwide plot of Zionists to rule everything … which is crap. If you want to believe in all of that, go for it – enjoy living with your head firmly entrenched within the confines of your bowel. Remember though, methane kills … bring a canary.)


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