GRANDSON OF MAHATMA GANDHI AN ANTI SEMITE?

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I think NOT… but, needless to say, the zionist leadership disagrees with me. The following quotes were made regarding recent Blog entries written by Arun Gandhi, the grandson of the late legendary leader of India…..

For Dr. Efraim Zuroff, the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Israel director, Arun Gandhi’s thoughts on “Jewish identity” are “exceptionally strange, especially in light of the fact that there’s never been any history of anti-Semitism in India and among Hindus.”

According to Zuroff, the notion that Jewish identity is “locked into” the Holocaust and causes resentment, coupled with the statement that “Israel and the Jews are the biggest players” in a “culture of violence [that] is eventually going to destroy humanity,” clearly amount to anti-Semitism.

The following is the Blog entry made by Arun Gandhi in the Washington Post earlier this week….

It is followed by a response published in the Jerusalem Post over the weekend.

Arun Gandhi

Arun Gandhi

President and co-founder of the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence.

Born in 1934 in Durban, South Africa, Arun Gandhi is the fifth grandson of India’s legendary leader, Mohandas K. “Mahatma” Gandhi. He is president and co-founder of the M. K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence, now at the University of Rochester in New York. He is a regular participant in Renaissance Weekend deliberations with President Clinton and other Rhodes Scholars. He worked for 30 years as a journalist for The Times of India. He is the author of several books, including “A Patch of White” (1949) and “The Forgotten Woman: The Untold Story of Kastur, the Wife of Mahatma Gandhi,” which he wrote with his late wife Sunanda.

Jewish Identity Can’t Depend on Violence

Jewish identity in the past has been locked into the holocaust experience — a German burden that the Jews have not been able to shed. It is a very good example of a community can overplay a historic experience to the point that it begins to repulse friends. The holocaust was the result of the warped mind of an individual who was able to influence his followers into doing something dreadful. But, it seems to me the Jews today not only want the Germans to feel guilty but the whole world must regret what happened to the Jews. The world did feel sorry for the episode but when an individual or a nation refuses to forgive and move on the regret turns into anger.The Jewish identity in the future appears bleak. Any nation that remains anchored to the past is unable to move ahead and, especially a nation that believes its survival can only be ensured by weapons and bombs. In Tel Aviv in 2004 I had the opportunity to speak to some Members of Parliament and Peace activists all of whom argued that the wall and the military build-up was necessary to protect the nation and the people. In other words, I asked, you believe that you can create a snake pit — with many deadly snakes in it — and expect to live in the pit secure and alive? What do you mean? they countered. Well, with your superior weapons and armaments and your attitude towards your neighbors would it not be right to say that you are creating a snake pit? How can anyone live peacefully in such an atmosphere? Would it not be better to befriend those who hate you? Can you not reach out and share your technological advancement with your neighbors and build a relationship?Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the bomb, this is an alien concept. You don’t befriend anyone, you dominate them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going to destroy humanity.
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The following is from the Weekend Edition of the Jerusalem Post

Gandhi’s grandson blasts Israel, Jews

A grandson of the late Indian leader Mohandas Gandhi has penned some thoughts on Jewish identity that were published this week on the Washington Post’s Web site.

The late Indian leader Mohandas Gandhi.
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“Jewish identity in the past has been locked into the Holocaust experience,” wrote Arun Gandhi, who heads the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence at the University of Rochester in New York. “It is a very good example of [how] a community can overplay a historic experience to the point that it begins to repulse friends.”

According to Gandhi, “The world did feel sorry for the episode [the Holocaust,] but when an individual or a nation refuses to forgive and move on, the regret turns into anger.”

Gandhi is pessimistic about the future of Jewish identity, which “appears bleak” because “any nation that remains anchored to the past is unable to move ahead, and especially a nation that believes its survival can only be ensured by weapons and bombs.”

In the blog entry, posted to the Washington Post’s On Faith blog on Monday and titled “Jewish Identity Can’t Depend on Violence,” Gandhi wonders whether Israelis would not be better served “to befriend those who hate you” rather than turning Israel into “a snake pit” through “your attitude toward your neighbors.”

“Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the bomb, this is an alien concept,” he wrote, concluding: “You don’t befriend anyone, you dominate them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that culture of violence is eventually going to destroy humanity.”

The blog posting is followed by an apology posted on Thursday.

“I am writing to correct some regrettable misimpressions I have given in my comments on my blog this week. While I stand behind my criticisms of the use of violence by recent Israeli governments – and I have criticized the governments of the US, India and China in much the same way – I want to correct statements that I made with insufficient care, and that have inflicted unnecessary hurt and caused anger,” he wrote.

Gandhi insists he does “not believe and should not have implied that the policies of the Israeli government are reflective of the views of all Jewish people,” but affirms that “when a people hold on to historic grievances too firmly it can lead to bitterness and the loss of support from those who would be friends.”

Nonetheless, he concludes, “The suffering of the Jewish people, particularly in the Holocaust, was historic in its proportions.”

For Dr. Efraim Zuroff, the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Israel director, Arun Gandhi’s thoughts on “Jewish identity” are “exceptionally strange, especially in light of the fact that there’s never been any history of anti-Semitism in India and among Hindus.”

According to Zuroff, the notion that Jewish identity is “locked into” the Holocaust and causes resentment, coupled with the statement that “Israel and the Jews are the biggest players” in a “culture of violence [that] is eventually going to destroy humanity,” clearly amount to anti-Semitism.

Furthermore, Gandhi’s words reflect his grandfather’s misunderstanding of the Jewish situation, Zuroff said.

“Sometimes people become obsessed with their own agenda to the extent that they think it’s the solution to every problem,” he said. “Even the great Mohandas Gandhi did not have a monopoly on wisdom, and the best proof of that was his suggestion that Jews engage in passive resistance against the Nazis. It’s an absurd response in the face of absolute totalitarianism and a movement like Nazism. It’s like saying the Indian army should disband and let the Taliban and al-Qaida and the Pakistanis overrun the country.”

Arun Gandhi’s comments “obviously show his distinct lack of ability to analyze history. With all due respect to his lineage and the wonderful idea he represents, this is an outrageous statement that does no credit to him, his family or his institution,” Zuroff said.

The original blog post garnered more than 500 responses, many expressing support for what they understood as Gandhi’s anti-Zionist statements.

Gandhi is not new to controversy regarding Israel. During a visit to Israel in 2004 he called on tens of thousands of Palestinians in Jordan to march across the Jordan River and enter Israel in a nonviolent protest.

He also reportedly said at the time that the Palestinians’ situation was “10 times worse” than that of blacks under South Africa’s apartheid regime.

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Have we reached a point where Israel cannot in any way be criticised? Does the special status they seem to want as a nation include the condemnation of all opinions against their policies?

It seems so, but hopefully it will be Israel that changes, thereby changing the opinions as well.

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18 Comments

  1. Ashish Krishnan said,

    January 12, 2008 at 16:45

    Sir, i am a Hindu. First of all let me tell you that i am not an anti-semite. But i do get frustrated with seeing these Israelis inflicting pain and suffering on the defenseless Palestinain people. I am 100% sure that the tears of these innocent Palestinian chidlren, women and men won’t go down the drain.

  2. peter said,

    January 12, 2008 at 19:34

    Sir, as long as US zionist/neocons support Israel zionists, there will not be any change for palestiniens. Corrupted arab regimes are also to blame
    /Saudi. Egypt ect/. Chance would be with president like Ron Paul, but zionist controling all US media will not allow this. In case Ron Paul would win Mosad would assasinate him very quickly. Iran tryes very hard explain zionist plot throut the Middle East and actually directly attacked hegemony of US dollar and now It is realy FRBank calling for help!!!!……We may really expect very big war in near future, but this time 911 will happend somewhere in Europe so NATO get involved as US has no more foot soldiers. Bush does not give dam about Palestine, large part of US public does not read, they only follow us/zionist media…..sad how stupid us populatio is, I do not even think they would be able to wage real revolution in US in case Ron Paul does not win, because other candidates act more like the “War cabinet” already(ex. Kunisich). Israel wizh its arsenal of illegaly produced WMD and brutal record and ongoing Holocaust of palestinien people is the real treat to whole humanity. And Sampson option blackmail?!?!?!

  3. Denis said,

    January 12, 2008 at 19:42

    All this talk about anti-semitism is absolute nonesense put out by the Zionist. See http://www.etresoi.ch/Denis/semitic.html , if you wish to know who is and who is not a Semite.

  4. Ekk said,

    January 12, 2008 at 22:38

    http://postmanpatel.blogspot.com/2008/01/mission-nearly-accomplished-dubya-bombs.html

    Friday, January 11, 2008
    Mission nearly accomplished ? Dubya bombs sand, again and again.

    Yarmulke wearing President Bush visiting to Israel’s Holocaust museum at Yad Vashem, with Clintonesque tear laden eyes, told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that America should have bombed the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz during the Second World War.

    “Twice, I saw tears well up in his eyes,” said Yad Vashem’s chairman, Avner Shalev.

    In the memorial’s visitors’ book, the president wrote simply, “God bless Israel, George Bush.”

    Simultaneously he had unleashed U.S. warplanes in a massive air – strike on Sunni farmlands and citrus groves in Jabour, southeast of Baghdad. 40,000 pounds of High explosive JDAM explosives slammed suspected al-Qaida in Iraq safe havens in Sunni farmlands south of Baghdad in a thunderous 10-minute onslaught . Two 2 huge B-1 bombers and four F-16 fighters hit 40 targets in Arab Jabour in 10 strikes (no doubt “surgical” ones) starting at 8.00 am.

    “Thirty-eight bombs were dropped within the first 10 minutes, with a total tonnage of 40,000 pounds,” said a US spokesman , who evidently was counting … but not the resultant dead. Bombing continued until Thursday evening.

    Maj. Alayne Conway, a spokeswoman for troops in central Iraq jubilantly told the press that the ordnance dropped in 10 minutes nearly exceeded what had been used in that region in any month since last June and “was one of the largest airstrikes since the onset of the war” in March 2003.
    […]

    ——————————–
    JERUSALEM — A teary-eyed President Bush stopped in front of an aerial photo of Auschwitz on Friday at Israel’s Holocaust memorial and said the U.S. should have sent bombers to prevent the extermination of Jews there.
    Yad Vashem’s chairman, Avner Shalev, quoted Bush as saying the U.S. should have “bombed it.” Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Bush referred to the train tracks leading to Auschwitz, not the camp itself, where between 1.1 million and 1.5 million people were killed by Nazi Germany.
    […]
    http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/01/11/1219288-bush-us-should-have-acted-on-auschwitz

  5. Token 1.618 said,

    January 13, 2008 at 02:22

    Interestingly enough I spoke with a Jew about Israel just this last week. The Jew I spoke with is deeply religious and much acclaimed in all areas of his life – a point I qualify because he is not naive but instead of great intellect, well travelled and deeply life experienced.
    I was much taken aback however when he commented that the Jews of Israel were becoming an embarrassment within the Worldwide Jewish community. Perhaps he had seen this article – I have no idea. I certainly hadn’t, at the time but he referenced the point made within it and seemed much in agreement.

  6. i am the son said,

    January 13, 2008 at 04:33

    I don’t read antisemitism in his original comments about Israel. It was more in line with a suggestion to shed the past and live in peace with neighbors versus military might.

    The Palestinians are treated by Israel in much the same way as Jews were treated prior to the Holocaust. The Palestinians lands were taken and so much more,

    I am not anti Jewish, I have friends of that faith, but the truth is sometimes uncomfortable for some people. The Holocaust was real and dirty, but the Jews were only half of the casualties, what of the other innocents?

  7. trademark said,

    January 13, 2008 at 07:21

    Can’t we all just get along?

  8. michael said,

    January 13, 2008 at 08:38

    Since the Israeli Culture of Violence is going to destroy humanity why does Arun Gandhi bother to extend an apology to those jews who are not like Israelis ?
    Better not be too mindful of the transient mere feelings of a infinitesmal number of people as it is going to nullify his otherwise very sober assessment of what Israel is really about – war without end until all goyim everywhere are vanquished. And besides why don’t these silent jews ever speak up ? They don’t. If any of them head up anti war movements like they did in 2002/03 Melbourne, Australia, it was only to lead them into the dry sands of exhaustion through misdirection as to the identity of the real warmonger.

    But unfortunately Arun Gandhi labours under the false impression that Israel has not seen ahead as to the consequences of its present day actions and attitudes and so needs to be reminded of this. The zionists certainly have, and long before he was born.

    Someone should tell him at his ripe age of 73 that Israel does not really see either him or me as human beings, and that his opinions are engaged as if they matter, merely to temporize, by Dr Ephraim Zuroff, to jolly him and any other goy along, to chide him by feigning the hurt feelings, yet again, of the uniquely injured in order evoke a needless apology.

    Arun Gandhi, fearful (why ever for ??) that he just might have been misunderstood on a small point duly issues a correction which has the effect of nullifying any impact the larger and vital point he made about `Israel and the Jews are the biggest players` in a `culture of violence that is eventually going to destroy humanity`.

    The juggernaut of Israel’s imminent war by American proxy against innocent Iran did not crush his flower of peace under its tracks, he did it himself by his needless apology.

  9. Cody said,

    January 13, 2008 at 10:12

    trademark: Unfortunately, no.

  10. January 13, 2008 at 12:52

    I can’t understand this. Is it necessary to disturb to Gandhi now?

  11. January 13, 2008 at 12:53

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  12. Vijayalakshmi said,

    January 13, 2008 at 18:00

    There is just one thing I would like to ask? Aren’t the Jews entitled to have atleast one country which they can call their own, when Muslims have so many lands? I’m sure they cannot be blamed for wanting that one country and they are justified in defending it. Palestinians should ask for truce and promise to peacefully co-exist with Israelis.

  13. David Mende said,

    January 13, 2008 at 18:02

    Michael (8) is correct. Like Mel Gibson, Ghandi had a chance to make a statement concerning jew/israeli war mongering. He then allowed himself to be turned around. With It’s american Golem Israel is plainly devoted to complete hegemony in the Middle East. What the jews do not understand is NOBODY can conquer the entire world and keep it for long. In the end the jews will pay with their lives. God above will allow it to happen. Those jews who point to scripture as evidence for justification are deluded. It should be obvious God does not encourage/justify nuclear war. Blessed are the peacemakers. God Damn the Neocons.

  14. Satya said,

    January 14, 2008 at 17:14

    Who this man called Arun gandhi, we Indian never heard of this man. Where he lives and what he does? Moreover, just being a grandson, it means nothing. A person’s ideal and values are not like monarch’s political kingdom to be inherited by childrens and grandchildrens etc.

    We never heard this man talking about plight of half-a-million Hindus in Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir, now ethnically cleansed by the Islamist terrorirsts. We never heard this man talking about plight of minority Hindus-Buddhists in Islamist Bangladesh and minority Hindus in Islamist Pakistan. We never heard this man talking about plight of Tamils of Sri Lanka, where they fighting with SriLankana govt for the last 25 years to get justtice. Most Tamils are ethnically cleansed and now living as refugrees world-wide. We never heard this man talking about plight of Tibetans, who were kicked out from their own land and now living as refugees here and there.

    Arun Gandhi must know, India was the only country in the world where Jews were never persecuted and lived peacefully. This was acknowledged by Arial Sharon, the Israeli PM. Everywhere else, they got persecuted. These so-called non-violence preachers like Arun are real violence preachers, because their non-violence is one-sided. They are the most double-standard people.

    Arun must come to India and work for the poor refugees from Jammu and Kashmir, Tibet, Sri Lanka. Then only it will mean something to carry his grandfather surname. Else, better not preach his bogus one-sided non-violence.

  15. Martin said,

    January 14, 2008 at 21:16

    An eye for an eye will make the whole world go blind.

    Gandhiji

  16. January 15, 2008 at 03:33

    […] A recent post on a friend’s blog (we just seem to be going back and forth these days, don’t we…) piqued my interest in a quote by The Great Mahatma Gandhi’s grandson, Arun Gandhi. I recently ran into this blog post in the top posts section of my WordPress dashboard: Grandson of Mahatma Gandhi An Anti-Semite? […]

  17. karin nordlander said,

    April 6, 2009 at 04:32

    God save Palestine …

  18. Himendra Thakur said,

    August 9, 2009 at 14:52

    These anti-Israel anti-Semite comments have been made by Arun Gandhi, NOT by Mahatma Gandhi. Arun Gandhi should not use the name of Mahatma Gandhi, implying these as the Mahatma’s comments.

    I wrote a play “THE PORTRAIT OF MAHATMA GANDHI” to refute the anti-Mahatma comments of Dr. Amartya Sen in his 2005-book “Argumentative Indian”. In this play, I also refuted the anti-Mahatma insinuations by the fans of Bhagat Singh in the movie “The Legends of Bhagat Singh” and in the 150-point defense of Nathuram Godse.

    Time will come when we will have to cleanse the Mahatma from the dirt thrown at him by his grandsons and granddaughters and other offsprings. Mahatma Gandhi belongs to whole India, not just to his offsprings for generations to come.

    Very truly yours,
    Himendra Thakur
    Telephone: USA-617-880-9667


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