1. September 27, 2008 at 09:25

    It always boggles my mind how anyone can support the barbaric, racist treatment of Israel against its neighbors or Israel period.

    Then I realize that not even the Congress or Senate knows why they support it unconditionally.

    But wait, surely these foolish cottonpicks were not born yesterday in any case. They know the real reason they support Israel is because the Federal Reserve extorts and RAPES everybody into supporting the Israeli Military Industrial Complex.

    Without the financial incentive to do so, they would not do such a unfathomable treason against ALL of America and/or Europe.

    This New World Order is a joke and a paranoid bunch of freaking frakas. I’m just about at that point of saying to heck with it, strapping on my explosive bullet proof vest and joining the brigade of the Millions of Anti-Zionists to STORM WASHINGTON D.C. LIKE NORMANDY AND RUN ALL THESE POLITICIANS AND BANKERS OUT OF TOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Run the god forsaken ZIONIST COPS and ISRAELI MOSSAD out of D.C. ONCE AND FOR ALL, make sure the Federal Reserve is good & well dead, and then start over. I can’t imagine who would not want to see that. Just get rid of these bastards, forget their martial law the Zionist PRICKS are outnumbered every direction and will fall HARD. Plus Ron Paul will be there to re-start the economic system. This is insane. And Paul McArtney, along with all these other Zionist Apartheid supporters are truly out of their minds.

  2. Annie Besant said,

    September 27, 2008 at 13:35

    Hope you’re feeling better, Desert Peace man.

  3. September 27, 2008 at 14:29

    This is very disappointing to see – but not for the reasons that you may imagine. The first video, the one that purports to show Paul M praising the apartheid in Israel is not Paul McCartney singing – it is a very bad fake. The music being performed (and I use the term in the kindest possible terms) does not even match the instrumentation that is assembled on the stage. All you need to do – aside from listening to Paul M is to watch the drummer – as the saying goes, he is definitely playing “to a different beat”. Do you really think that Paul McCartney would put on such a fake, condescending accent as that, in order to sing something about apartheid, particularly when he was involved in the Artists United Against Apartheid during the fight to end the racist regime in South Africa?

    The second video made not of the ambassador’s hope that McCartney would sing “We can work it out” – his hope being that the situation in Israel/Palestine could be solved WITHOUT VIOLENCE – why is this such a bad thing? Granted, I would not want to perform in Tel Aviv, but I do not have as many fans as Paul McCartney – how many people can one person reach with a message of hope in a single night without actually running for political office?

    McCartney is not a politician – judging by his acts he is not that politically astute; the decision to perform in Israel is an obviously polarizing one, but to make a fake video that purports to show the man praising the apartheid system – in my opinion – does more harm to the anti-apartheid cause than anything else.

    Without integrity in this battle one side becomes as degenerate in their approach as the other – without carrying guns and grenades, without dropping bombs, we must rely on the power of the pen, the power of wits, the sharpness of our minds; we must demonstrate that there is a better way and that way is not one that includes the bulldozing of those who disagree with your policies or with the shooting of seventeen year olds because you suspect they may be terrorists.

    When we accuse someone of being something without real evidence – when we look away out of the shame of knowing all of the pieces may not be there, but we still want to prosecute our case anyway, we have crossed the line from prosecution to persecution. Just as the right of habeas corpus has been devolved in the United States, thanks to the “terrorists” and the ongoing threats they present to the nation, so to the rights of us all when people decide we are justifiable targets in their personal and private wars entirely based on the things that we have said and what we have written.

    It is not the world that Big Brother envisioned in Orwell’s 1984 – it is an incarnation of a system that makes Big Brother look like child’s play.

    As for the comment to your post …

    Will the replacing of a system founded on greed, deception, xenophobia, hatred and distrust be improved if replaced by one that is still founded on elements of hatred and distrust, this time aimed at those who had been presumed to be the ones responsible for the previous incarnation of “the system”? Ousting the “Zionist PRICKS” as the previous commenter (Out of Our Minds) stated only serves to reinforce the age-old stereotypes of the “Jewish conspiracy” in which the Jews are in control of the global economy, working in a secret, concerted effort to take over the world (as outlined in the completely fraudulent “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, a favourite rallying call for those trying to “save” America from the scourge of Hebraic influence).

    This is the type of ill-conceived thinking that led a normally rational citizenry in the 1930’s accept the most outrageously invective propaganda regarding the cause of their economic plight: der Jude; untermenschen. Jews; subhumans. The fact that the Jewish population in Germany barely made up 1% of the population didn’t seem to register too highly in the minds of people as they analyzed the arguments being presented by the Nazis for the simple reason that there were no opposing ideas for people to consider; Hitler had eliminated his opposition during his rise to power and especially during the “night of long knives” when the SS was established as his personal security force and private army.

    Today we have, fortunately, an opportunity to hear ideas that oppose the most extremist views, ideas that do not allow for tolerance, for change, for the possibility that people can actually learn to live with each other in peace – if given what they need to live so that they are not worried about where their next meal is going to be coming from.

    When we have a class system in place in which the majority of the “upper” class seems to be cut from the same cloth it becomes very easy to make assumptions regarding the background of the people involved, but this is the same as judging a book by its cover; you may have a general idea about what the story is, but you have no specifics regarding the plot, the characters, or – most importantly – how things turn out in the end.

    All you end up doing is demonstrating that you are no better than the ignorant sycophants that need to be replaced; the essential issue not being the removal of Zionists from places of power and influence in Washington D.C., the issue really being that the system – capitalism itself – is fundamentally flawed in that the majority of the world population is essentially enslaved in order to serve the needs of a small portion of humanity (term used lightly). As the United States has only about 300 million people out of the 6.6 BILLION of the total world population, about 0.45% it is a telling fact that they are the LARGEST consumer nation in the world: the United States (and Canada, and Europe, and the U.K.) treat the rest of the world as their collective grocery store and supplier of cheap consumer goods – knowing that labour costs are low, and there are plenty of workers to replace the ones who get burnt out by the hard work (and lack of health care).

    This is not the evils of Zionism at work – it is the manifestation of pure, old-fashioned greed; capitalism, colonialism, and slavery at work, and we support it with every purchase that we make when we do not decide whether or not to purchase something from a local manufacturer (if available) – even if it costs more – in order to truly support our economy.

    Tough times require touch choices, not silly rhetoric that has been recast from the Protocols; it is time to move past the hate that led to countless pogroms and the holocaust, and the ongoing Nakba – it is time to work on coming together as neighbours and learning to live as we were meant to, as one race – humans.

    I suppose I could go on … but I won’t …
    DesertPeace – I truly missed your blog for many of the thoughtful comments you made, but this post – this is pure … well, look in the mirror – your eyes have turned brown.

    CrazyComposer, Out
    – still waiting for my “rich uncle” to materialize and introduce me to the Cabal of the Innermost Circle of the Learned Elders of Zion so I can take my rightful place amongst the leadership of the true World Leaders ….. Yeah … and I saw a pig fly last night … right before the bacon fell into the frying pan.

  4. Lew Scannon said,

    September 27, 2008 at 16:55

    As a lifelong Beatles fan, I’d have to agree with Crazy Composer, this is clearly a fake. I am very familiar with his voice in it’s various permutations (listen to the early Beatles Christmas records to get an idea, as well as outtakes from Let It Be) and this is clearly not McCartney’s voice. A poorly crafted piece of propaganda.

  5. September 27, 2008 at 16:56

    paul is dead, that’s faul!

  6. Les Visible said,

    September 27, 2008 at 16:56

    Hmmm… one guess what the ‘Crazy Composer’s” background and beliefs are composed of. It’s also hard to imagine that anyone thinks that’s McCartney singing in the first video but irony and satire are generally lost on those who are are doing what is being satirized… Yeah… it’s just capitalism. That’s why 6 out of the 7 oligarchs are Swedish and the heads of the media and entertainment, pornography and drug industries are all Lebanese. It’s also why the head of AIG and ‘Slinky’Fishman as well as so many ‘chief operators’ involved in the financial crisis as well as the members of PNAC and the heads of Homeland Security are all Maori’s from New Zealand instead of representatives of one of the tiniest demographics on Earth. It’s all coincidence, just like the majority of the neo-cons who fabricated the reasons for war.

  7. beehaven said,

    September 27, 2008 at 17:36

    Oh wow, that first video is such an obvious joke or ridiculous hoax, you should be embarrassed that you took it seriously. I suggest you delete this whole post before you lose all your credibility.

  8. Rick said,

    September 27, 2008 at 18:02

    Yeah, Prosor says “We Can Work it Out” as a message to peace in the Middle East…so long as Israel continues to get what it wants.

  9. desertpeace said,

    September 27, 2008 at 19:19

    The first video IS meant to be a joke.

  10. Satire ON PURPOSE!!!!! said,

    September 27, 2008 at 19:43

    The first video was made as a joke. What appalls and worries me is that there are people out there who actually think that desertpeace meant it to be real!

    If people out there can’t tell the true intentions of things like this, it really spells disaster for followers of peace and truth. Can there really be that many dumbasses out there?

  11. Robin said,

    September 28, 2008 at 08:47

    “Hmmm… one guess what the ‘Crazy Composer’s” background and beliefs are composed of.”

    Well Les Visible, the “Crazy Composer” is Peter, Desert Peace’s son, his beautiful intellectual son who always makes me really THINK when I read what he writes, slowing down so I can take it all in as one would carefully read any high thinker. Steve brought in to the world a GOOD one with Peter.

    “If people out there can’t tell the true intentions of things like this, it really spells disaster for followers of peace and truth. Can there really be that many dumbasses out there?”

    Read again, Crazy Composer is no dumbass and knew it was fake and didn’t like the mockery because he sees it as counter-productive (as I am reading what he wrote).

    “Without integrity in this battle one side becomes as degenerate in their approach as the other”

    The video is making Paul out to sing a very MOCKING Hava Nagilah (sic) rendition, taking the song of Israel and changing the words to something very cutting against Israeli apartheid, yet at the same time singing “Hi my name is Paul McCartney” as if he’s full of himself. It is obvious that this video is a slam at McCartney for agreeing to appear saying that he is furthering Israel’s oppression and thinks highly of himself for doing so. Can anyone really deduce that? I don’t think so.

    Does it help the Palestinian cause to make such a video?

    Again, I don’t think so.

    “Integrity” vs. “Zionist PRICKS” and “dumbasses”.

    It’s everyone’s choice.

    Let’s look back on some other controversies over musicians/celebrities going to Israel.

    Remember the uproar over Oprah? She never appeared.

    Remember the Rolling Stones? Same, only they canceled over what they claimed was a problem over ticket sales.

    Roger Waters……….ah, he appeared, but changed the venue. A letter went out to Waters to cancel his upcoming appearance also

    What happened?

    Now McCartney has played Israel. Here is an interview with him–mystery-tour-sir-paul-mccartneys-return-to-israel-944053.html
    “When, having used the old Hebrew greeting Shana Tova to wish his Israeli audience well for the Jewish New Year next week, he added in Arabic the also venerable “Ramadan Karim”, the cheers were almost as loud. Sir Paul will know well enough by now that it is not this Israel, the one on display in Hayarkon Park, that needs to be convinced by his message of peace. (BINGO!) But it seemed mighty glad to hear it all the same.

    Is McCartney as outspoken as Waters was? Definitely not. Did he bring a message of peace? I think so. Is Paul McCartney going to solve the Israel/Palestinian problem or could he EVER, either by not coming, or by coming and taking a STRONG stance? I don’t think so. He’s a musician.and in this case he certainly didn’t pull a “Waters” or a “Bono”, both of which couldn’t solve it either, by NOT coming OR appearing and taking a strong stance.

    Once the invitation is issued, then the pressure is on. I don’t think of McCartney as being “edgy”, I think of him, especially post Beatles days as being more fluff, and remember, it was Lennon and Harrison who were always edgier than McCartney, Lennon being the hard core “peace” guy. So, he accepted the invitation and made a gesture to the Palestinians, which I think was fairly measly. He met with One Voice according to their website and then he wore their pin. What would have been MUCH better than a meeting with ten students would have been a concert in Palestine as well, but we all know what happened to the last One Voice concert (which btw, I’m not a particular fan because the petition they floated was misleading)

    It’s a CONCERT and I don’t think the Israeli hardliners can in ANY way say he came to support their regime.

    So, I don’t have too much to say about musicians, because if they aren’t Israeli or Palestinian they come and go.

    Not so for the Israelis and Palestinians who need to “work it out” as Peter stated, WITHOUT violence.

  12. profnasty said,

    September 28, 2008 at 13:46

    How the mighty have fallen. After the criminal assault on Lebanon and the Palestine Captivity and Iraq/Iran and ad nauseum, Israel ought to be a pariah among nations. Instead, the Grand Old Man of pop serenades them. Go figure. // Oh, and BTW, Composer, please put a sock in it. Write your own blog and place links. You are hogging the bandwidth of this unique and prescious site. Peace.

  13. September 28, 2008 at 16:18

    Thank you, Robin – nicely said, and I appreciate the kind words about my writings. As for “profnasty” and the call to write my own blog, not hogging the bandwidth here – as you likely know, I do have my own blog – not recently updated, but I am working on an article (on the upcoming elections) which I hope to post shortly.

    As for this blog, why should I limit my commenting on my own father’s posts merely because someone with such a closed mind as yourself is unable to appreciate someone presenting an argument that demands someone step away from their preconceived ideas and THINK about what they currently believe? My father and I have argued about things for … well, about 39 years (I didn’t speak in my first year of life) and these arguments were always about the sharpening of the intellect – it was not necessarily about being contrary or not agreeing but in forcing each other to explore an issue from each side; this is the only way that you can be assured that your beliefs are founded on something substantive. What could be worse than someone who says they are going to vote for party X merely because their parents have voted for them, and their parents before them …. This does not create political astuteness, it creates an environment of intellectual lemmings; people who blindly follow someone else’s lead without bothering to explore the issues at hand.

    How many people are going to be voting for John McCain and Sara Palin only because their family has voted for Bush/Bush/Dole/Bush/Reagan/Reagan …? What might happen if some of these people actually read a well reasoned argument – devoid of ad hominem attacks – that presented the opposing views in a different perspective, in a way that you might not hear coming from the Fixed Noise Network, or from reading the Walled Street Joint?

    Just as I allow comments to my blog that may disagree with my views (so long as they are not racist or call for violence) DesertPeace has the same policy; if you, profnasty, are afraid of encountering opinions that might dissuade you of the closed-minded ideas that you espouse, I apologize … my writings will probably not be something that you want to expose yourself to on a regular basis. After all, with knowledge comes accountability; once you know the truth you can no longer use the defense that “I had no idea”.

    CrazyComposer, aka Peter Amsel, aka DesertPeace Jr. (live with it, folks … I ain’t going away).

  14. Terry said,

    September 28, 2008 at 16:39

    Isn`t it long past due that this farting, pathetic old windbag and lover of terrorism be put out to pasture?

    I`m glad I never purchased any of this talentless morons records.

    Perhaps this zombies next tour should be called the “I love terrorism” tour.

    I can`t believe this idiot was in The Beatles!

  15. PolishPete said,

    September 28, 2008 at 22:51

    That voice clearly isn’t Paul McCartney’s voice . . . an idiot could tell that this is a fake!

  16. Easterling said,

    September 29, 2008 at 17:48

    Paul paid a woman $50,000,000.00 to bear his child.

    John Lennon wrote “Imagine”

    Loser is as Loser does!
    Same as it ever was!


  17. Barbara said,

    May 24, 2009 at 16:31

    One comment. That last picture of a Beatle in the first video. That is baby George, not baby Paul. Everyone else has said all there is to be said. Of course that is not Paul singing.

    Steve, sweetie, why are you giving press time to such a foolish thing?

  18. desertpeace said,

    May 24, 2009 at 16:34

    lol @ ‘press time’….. must have been a slow day in the desert.

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