READERS RESPOND TO JERUSALEM POST ATTACKS

Yesterday THIS post was published on my Blog… Reader response has been very supportive of both this site and What Really Happened. I wish to thank all who commented.

The following are selected comments from regular readers of this Blog….

attendingtheworld said,

April 14, 2009 at 4:10 pm Bravo! You’ve achieved success since the moron David Shamah is upset: as evident in the quote below.

I continue to be amazed about such idiots who claim to be “objective” yet support the ITF (Israeli Terrorist Forces) or settlers terrorism, barbarism, apartheid and ethnic cleansing!

“I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please everyone.” – Bill Cosby

ATW

April 14, 2009 at 4:48 pm

Wow Steve, where to begin. Firstly you must be doing something right as they are annoyed, so keep up the good work! I found two other passages to be quite comical and for me much more telling. For instance:

1. “Then there’s the blogger who, apparently operating from an apartment in French Hill, Jerusalem, supplies his readers with up to the minute news – from Gaza! Of course, all the “news” is about how evil the IDF is, how Gazans suffer, etc. Again, I am not making a political call here; Israeli policy in Gaza is certainly something that should – must – be discussed and analyzed. But not here, not by this guy, who purports to promote “peace in the desert.” He’s just the wrong man for the job!”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>…

Ah, so this is a subject that “should” be discussed, just not by anyone who is Jewish and against Israel’s actions. Any Jew who dares to go against the state of Israel is the “Wrong man for the job” Hence he is even angrier that you are a Jew, a double whammy:)

2. “But even more – the writer of this blog is himself apparently Jewish, an immigrant from New York, and a resident of the State of Israel for over two decades! “
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

See what a racist state Israel truly is here? Perhaps Israel should create a clause for Jews who move there, making them sign a form stating that if you live here you have to be in lock step with the Government at all times. Otherwise you are not the “right” kind of Jew. Additionally, the vast majority of Jews in Israel are all immigrants. But maybe we should take him up on his ideas and all the immigrants leave Israel, after that there would be only a handful and vastly outnumbered, perhaps they’d make peace then out of necessity.

Lastly, Have you ever come upon a huge ant hill or mound? What happens when you kick it? All the little ants start running around in all directions in a blind panic. You see, all these blogs he refers to, along with yourself and Michael had the audacity to kick the ant hill. I say Keep kicking:)


BiblioHistoria said,

April 14, 2009 at 6:09 pm “And while we would defend the right of any member of any ethnic group or religion to take any side he or she wishes in a political dispute, it again seems a bit much for a total outsider to portray a culture and lifestyle that he has no part in. ”

So despite being there for 20 years you, Steve, are still an outsider. You still apparently have NO PART in the culture in which you live. Did this fellow interview you, come and see you to actually PROVE that statement? if not then he lied. But that’s no surprise, Jews seem to think nothing of telling lies.

So does this mean that according to this journalist fellow, EVERY SINGLE newly returned Jew over the last 20 years will always be considered an outsider to the Jewish population for the rest of their lives?

And so does this mean that Israel actually considers the REAL Jews to be the Sabras? (sabra – Israeli born Jew). If you are not a Sabra then you are NOT a Jew. That seems to be what this fellow is saying.

If that is true then Mark Regev need to be expelled from Israel as he was NOT born in Israel and he is NOT a Sabra.

Seems to me that it is ONLY returned Jews (born outside of Israel) who insist on showing up Israel’s mistakes to the entire world that are considered outsiders.

Mark Regev (although born outside of Israel) has never shown Israels mistakes to the world – he covers them up or makes excuses for them instead. Thats why he is an insider.


April 14, 2009 at 6:51 pm Bravo to both you and Michael
Both have kept me sane in the past number of years in knowing that my concerns are shared
And have also kept me busy lecturing my government
Kathleen Bridel
Canada

 


 

 

April 14, 2009 at 6:53 pm

What really amazes me is that the original article appeared in the first place: the quality of writing is of such a pathetic level that the Jerusalem Post must be desperate to fill its pages. The writer – and I use that word while choking back the bile that has burned my throat at the thought – has made the sophomoric mistake of failing to justify his arguments with anything less than personal attacks against his chosen targets.

The worst thing that he could say against Michael Rivera was that Michael is NOT Hawaiian or of Polynesian descent, and this makes it hypocritical to focus on the events taking place right now in Israel. At the same time, for living in a predominantly Arab neighbourhood (French Hill) Steve Amsel becomes disqualified to discuss the affairs of the Gazans? One might think that this would actually qualify him for the reason that he has lived in that neighbourhood for over twenty years and has earned the love and respect of his neighbours – he has become part of the community and has opened his home to people regardless of their race.

So, according to Mr Shamah, what would qualify someone to be critical of the policies of the State of Israel? Apparently he is offended when Jews speak up and I’m sure he would see criticism coming from the ‘goyim’ as outright anti-Semitism. This is the problem with Zionism and Zionists – they have to realize that there is a distinct difference between criticism and someone aiming hatred at you. They should realize that if we hated Jews – truly hated them – we would not bother complaining about their actions as the State of Israel – we (as in the world) would simply muster the military wherewithal to wipe them off the face of the earth … but that is NOT the nature of what is happening. I do not want to see that part of the world destroyed or have it erupt into a war – I want to see all of the people living there live in peace – without the criminal actions that are currently being carried out by the zealot Zionists in pursuit of their fanatical agenda.

If the criticisms against Zionism are too much for them to take, that’s is just too bad: the shoe fits (and it is one really ugly, blood-encrusted, filthy, hideous thing) – now they have to wear it until they change their ways.

Oh – the other thing that Mr Shamah did which demonstrates his cowardice as a writer is to use his position (ie. newspaper columnist) to take on private citizens but not actually have the courage to name them. It is a childish ploy, somewhat akin to ‘you can’t guess who I’m talking about’. Of course, some will say that the paper was afraid of libel or slander – then, I say, the article should have never been published. Why? for this simple reason: charges of libel and slander have one (ONE – 1 -) defense that is absolute, for which there is absolutely nothing that anyone can do in protestation: tell the truth. Had Mr Shamah reported the truth he could have named Michael and Steve as much as he wanted, but – he knew that the actions of Israel in Gaza – as covered by Whatreallyhappened and Desertpeace are the TRUTH.

There is no defense against the truth.

Wie viel ist aufzuleiden!


Barbara said,

April 14, 2009 at 7:31 pm

Well Steve, these guys sound about as dangerous as those critters I wrote to you about the other day. Bombast and blather but no beef or barley!

Interesting, I go to a LOT of websites that are very very anti Israel, and they don’t get nearly as much attention. You must have a very skilled publicity manager? Or is it, they think they can with you?

When they banned Galloway from Canada awhile back, the result was he got SO MUCH publicity that he ended up speaking to thousands and then his broadcast was eagerly swallowed up by umpteen more viewers. AND, the government made an ass of itself internationally! AND they let us all know, in the final analysis just how frightened they were off what he had to say!

They still don’t “get” that bump up the publicity angle. Let’s not tell them that bit hmmm?

“Of course, the authors of these sites take great pains to point out that they’re merely “anti-Zionist,” or that “it’s a minority of the Jews who are responsible.”

Er, does this person not understand the concept of individual human beings or is he totally into the hive mindset?

Humanists are not prone to such sweeping generalizations.


Daoud said,

April 14, 2009 at 7:33 pm

“…But reading his site, I’ve never seen this fellow address his own sins of occupation – the one where he is part of the horde of mainland Americans who have occupied Hawaii, breaking treaties signed with the sovereign Kingdom of Hawaii (http://www.freehawaii.org/)…

Actually, Mike Rivero has several times addressed this matter, and has a permanent link to an article he wrote about it.

If this is the extent of his familiarity with What Really Happened.com, then it’s likely that he is equally ignorant about Desert Peace.

And, regrettably, such people actually get paid to produce this nonsense.

 

 

Maurice said,

April 14, 2009 at 11:58 pm So, according to this stand-up comedian, “Israeli policy in Gaza is certainly something that should – must – be discussed and analyzed” . Great! Let’s discuss and analyse the killing and maiming of hundreds of Palestinian children! You know Steve, he could be right. You may “the wrong man” for that particular job. Your job after all is helping the voiceless have a voice. You’re doing a great job. Keep it up

 


 

 

Susan Zahedi said,

April 15, 2009 at 12:23 am

Israeli Zionist Jews are shameless people and fortunately there are less and less people around the world who believe their lies .
Mike Rivero and Steve you are stars and more people read your websites than the crap that is produced daily in the shitty J. Post.
Keep up the good work and f… the Zionist worldwide, their day will come.


Fiona said,

April 15, 2009 at 4:56 am

Well done Steve and Mike. The man sounds upset.


Lasse Wilhelmson said,

April 15, 2009 at 10:39 am

We are for sure more than just 2 :)

 

 

 

And the following are from What Really Happened’s crosspost of my post….

I am here for…

I am here for the links to legitimate news sources and Mike’s commentary. And yours.

KICK ASS MIKE

Well you cannot say they do not know who you are now!

This is a classic piece of evidence of the Propaganda Machine that has been Cranked up in Israel!

What was that that Truman said when a reporter yelled “Give them Hell Harry”?

I didn’t give them HELL I told them the TRUTH and they thought it was HELL!

Funny how there was no mention of White Phosphorous in that article either!

Stay out of small planes for a while Mike.

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK

OH, that ASSHAT needs to get a membership so he will know What Really Happened

 

JP article

Mike….good job….you slam dunked that asshole with your historical facts on Hawaii. This dumb ass couldn’t even check his facts?!?

So Mike…

…when you gonna start building that separation wall to keep all those pesky natives in their place and the best land for you settlers? ;o)

Seriously, you must be getting to them, well done and keep it up. They seem to be getting so desperate these days, contradicting even the words of their own Israeli citizens and troops, in their eagerness to play the victim card. Unfortunately I do not see the Israeli leadership going down quietly, and all their nukes are a worry. I often wonder if they have any of those forward deployed as a bargaining chip….or just plain blackmail? That would at least explain the allegiances they are shown by so many western governments.

read this you ziotard

hey you ziotard at the stolen-land post:

we got nothing against jews or palestineans or syrians (all of them SEMITES btw)

BUT WE DO HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST THE ZIONISTS who have declared themselves above god, and think that goyims are lower than rats and deserve to die.

so, you better do some rephrasing, you je[s]usalem-punk, hatemonger , deathlover, coward-remote-bomber !

PROUD OF YA GUYS!

justice

This zionist rat is obviously very aware that the Israeli ship is sinking and is desperate to get to the edge of delusion.
Have no fear! We know what is REALLY HAPPENING and what the truth is.
Bravo Mike and Steve!
“We will NOT go down in Gaza tonight”.
F… the political zionists!

 

 

 

 

And here you can see what Jerusalem Post readers had to say in the ‘Talkback’ section…


 


 

 

David Shamah creeps under the rocks!

Obviously the author creeps under the rocks considering the blatant one sided hit piece of a joke this article turned out to be. Mike Rivero is great and tells it like it is just as Steve Amsel does. Thanks David, you just proved Mike and Steve’s point!

Tarawera Ahi Kaa – Aotearoa (04/15/2009 10:42) 

 

My two cents worth

Yes, why is Norman F. denied entry? I see this question hasn’t been answered yet. Perhaps there just isn’t an answer that wouldn’t seem hateful.

Fiona – (04/15/2009 08:08)
Shill

What a despicable, dishonest, transparently biased article. I’ve never ready anything worse at Whatreallyhappen.com. You should check it out.

David – (04/14/2009 23:07)
Poor Research

You have obviously never read Mr. Riveros site whatreallyhappened.com. You write “But reading his site, I’ve never seen this fellow address his own sins of occupation – the one where he is part of the horde of mainland Americans who have occupied Hawaii, breaking treaties signed with the sovereign Kingdom of Hawaii (http://www.freehawaii.org/)” IF you had even perused his site occasionally, you would know that he has written extensively about the Hawaii freedom movement! The only reason you wrote this hit piece, is because thousands of people visit both Riveros, and desertpeace.com, too bad!

Bill – U.S.A. (04/14/2009 22:37)
we all know and love whatreallyhappened.com

as he says “the truth does not fear investigation”

nick – (04/14/2009 22:20) 

 

bwahahaha.. what an article..

Don’t worry they got it covered on their website, so you will receive some viewers.. finally..

name – country (04/14/2009 20:50) 

 

So, as you can see, Desert Peace and What Really Happened obviously have more supporters and friends than this David Shamah guy has….
I guess if you speak the truth as we do, it pays off!

15 Comments

  1. al said,

    April 15, 2009 at 17:01

    Wow! It’s not only a crime to be “anti-Semitic” – but now it’s being made a crime to be “anti-Zionist”- Zionism -the virulent, violent, blood-thristy , militant arm of jews. All sorts of criticism of isra-hell, erh, israel, is being squished, world wide. Jews and supporters, are going to make sure of that, by golly.

    And this guy, in the Jerusalem Post, has to go to an event (Hawaii) which happened more than a century ago – of course, to obsfucate/distract the readers, from israel’s crime.

    And even further, to compare the Rivero with warmongering monsters, now THAT’S really going over the top.

  2. April 15, 2009 at 17:02

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  3. Don Miller said,

    April 15, 2009 at 18:11

    This is great!! If this is the best the Israeli’s can do it makes it that more obvious how bad their position really is. In my years of posting I’ve learned when someone attempt’s to express an opposing opinion that has no validity they will revert to name calling and “slinging feces”. Let’s face it, comparing Hawaii to the Gaza slaughter is a far reach to say the least. Steve and Michael, I’m so glad to have bloggers like yourselves digging and presenting the truth to us here in the US since our Media, like our Country has been stolen and turned against us. Keep up the good work, your both guardian Knights in our Modern world of information. “God Speed USA”

  4. Ben Heine said,

    April 15, 2009 at 19:02

    Thumbs up, Steve!

  5. April 15, 2009 at 20:40

    Steve, I’m so happy everyone went there and left a postive comment. I wrote about it on my blog yesterday here:

    http://irish4palestine.blogspot.com/2009/04/zionist-writer-at-jpost-attacks-blogs.html

    and noticed a few readers visited you and the jpost. I will just ditto what everyone else said “great work” and what Ben Heine said was spot on, you ARE the guy for the job!! I don’t have to tell you again what finding your blog meant to me:) stay safe, stay happy, and remember we appreciate you!!

  6. April 15, 2009 at 21:21

    It is an honour to have been able to contribute, in a very small way, to this small – ‘virtual’ – uprising, of sorts. In a way, we have demonstrated that even the mainstream media cannot ‘outshout’ those of us who have chosen to speak – and seek – the truth in alternate places than has been done in the past. While it is nice to think of all of us getting together and singing ‘Kum-by-yah’ (or however it is spelled) the impracticality of such a thing, vis a vis the logistics and costs makes it virtually impossible. Through these blogs, however, we can bring – virtually – thousands of people together through the opportunity to read and see that there is something other than the pap being served to them via the mainstream media.

    When Fox Spews won a lawsuit (re Monsanto) against a former employee who was denied ‘whistleblower’ status the reason given was this: they (Fox) are not required to TELL THE TRUTH in the presentation of the NEWS. Let’s take that slowly, for all those boys and girls who were brought up believing that everything that the government told you was good: People who call themselves “reporters” or “newscasters” are not required by a single law, regulation or precept to convey stories containing a SINGLE grain of truth. Period.

    What does that have to do with any of this? Consider the Jerusalem Post – how often do they consider what they are publishing – intentional cover-ups for a regime that is at war with the native people of the land. Canada did this to the natives and still has problems – problems that have taken generations to resolve and are still being resolved. The United States also carried out a genocide against their natives – this DOES NOT mitigate the fact that it is wrong – this does not change the fact (FACT) that these actions took place over one hundred years ago (for the most part) – before we “learned better”.

    We are ‘more humane’ now – at least, after the holocaust, we had better be; but is that lesson displayed in Gaza? When it is, I’ll be the first to buy a Jerusalem Post – with pride – until then, it’s a waste of paper and ink.

    Wie viel ist aufzuleiden!

  7. Doug@usa.com said,

    April 15, 2009 at 23:47

    Naziism and Zionism are two sides of the same coin – both are Nationalist-Socialist political movements with an ethnocentric orientation.

    Naziism is a German-oriented movement that sees Jews as the source of their problems, while Zionism is a Jewish-oriented movement that sees non-Jews as the source of their problems.

    During the 1930s when people were falling all over themselves to kiss up to the Nazis, it took courage to be anti-Nazi, and today when people are falling all over themselves to kiss up to the Zionists, it takes as much, if not more courage, to be anti-Zionist.

    If it is racist to be anti-Zionist, then it is likewise racist to be anti-Nazi.

  8. cook said,

    April 16, 2009 at 03:39

    keep pissen them off boys it makes them mad,one of the dowmfalls of emotion is that when somebody is guilty of whatever when they get mad they are bound to slip up.that’s what you are capable of doing,you’ve got mobs of support world wide,i live in australia,only sought of discovered the net about 8 -9 years ago,i remember sitting in front of the computer and thinking what do i want to know.so i just typed what really happened,micheal has not only opened my mind and lets not forget steve but these gentlemen have confirmed all previous thoughts that i’ve had from a young age,who knows how it is that we know whats going on but the more of us that know the better chance we have of stopping it.therein lies the challange.(sorry if i spelt lies wrong it is unintentional).what is intentional is that the lies being told to us this very day needs to stop,you blokes have a worldwide audience,i’d like to do it myself, circumstance does’nt allow me and i’m not alone on that.just keep pissen them off boys,the truth needs to be told.oh yeah i nearly forgot i work at a uni (don’t get excited i’m only a cleaner)but i start at 3am so i’ve been posting bumper sticker things around, cause i can at 3am,just don’t know how to upload the pikies,but am working on it.in the mean time i do all the promotin by voice,the missus thinks i’m a lunatic,i tell her they live on the moon,don’t know why any body gets it.therein lies the challange,good luck.the cooks as mad as hell and he’s not going to take it anymore,and there are millions of cooks.thanks

  9. Bart B said,

    April 16, 2009 at 11:37

    Keep up the good work on all site that feed us non-msm news

    SUPPORT from Belgium !!! (yes a native lol)

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    April 16, 2009 at 12:27

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  11. JustifyingResistance said,

    April 16, 2009 at 12:41

    Well done guys, you seem to have struck a nerve somewhere with that sorry excuse for a writer.
    It is just the usual drivel the apologists come up with, and frankly, there is less and less ground for them to stand on, hence the lengths they have to go to cook up something to justify themselves, the more surreal it seems to normal, level headed people everywhere.
    I honestly do feel for all the decent, moral, kind and anti-hate Jews that are sadly going to get lumped in with the hate-mongering, rabid, racist, Zionist murderers who have wrapped the Jewish label around themselves to give them an aura of respectability. Just as ordinary Germans ended up getting to carry the bulk of the pain and deaths in the war against the Nazis, the same will happen again when the world finally tires of the rabid, hate filled nation that is Israel and does something about it. The day will come, might not be today, or tomorrow, but it will happen, just as it happened against the Nazi Reich, and it will be all the peoples of the world who will rally up and be revolted to the extent that they will not tolerate that pariah any more. It wont be anti-Semitic, it will simply be the way a surgeon cuts out a cancer, they might not feel personal antipathy towards the cells that make up the cancer, but it still has to be cut out for the good of the rest of the body, and it is the same for the world, Israel is the cause of so many of the problems we face in one way or another.

  12. rgl said,

    April 16, 2009 at 15:22

    I read WRH to obtain news that the MSM will not cover. Ditto DesertPeace. Ditto a number of other so-called alternate news sites. Riviero does provide some of the news I seek.

    I don’t go there for his informed opinion. He is a self-aggrandizing gun nut.

    Take it at that, and leave it at that.

  13. TruthtoPower said,

    April 17, 2009 at 10:44

    Be careful out there, the little criminal neo zionists might consider you a threat and start physically attacking people.

    I hope it never comes to how Russia was back then, what a nightmare. I doubt anyone has the stomach for that.

  14. Otis said,

    April 17, 2009 at 20:32

    Thank you Steve and Mike for providing thought-provoking information. “Thought-provoking” is now a crime in this dumbed-down, rule by sound-bite world. I may not agree with every comment but I find myself coming more often to sites such as DP and WRH as the Corporate media, even the one-time great BBC, have become shills for the arrogant elite.

  15. April 18, 2009 at 01:40

    I read David Shamah’s piece in the ‘Jerusalem Post’ the other day clearly criticising Mike Rivero’s Whatreallyhappened blog and Steve Amsel’s Desert Peace blog.

    Apart from the usual well-worn spiel about ‘anti-Zionism being anti-Semitism’ which Shamah attempted to use to demonise these two blogs, Shamah went on to say: “Well-meaning, rational people – both Jewish and otherwise – sometimes attempt to argue back or present facts in the talkback forums on these blogs, only to be shot down or censored, so the only point of view permitted on the site is the one that confirms the sick views of the blog author.”

    He then says: “The best way to fight them, I believe, is to discredit them – to show them up for the liars and hypocrites they really are.”

    Well, I then attempted to post a comment in response to Shamah’s article that went like this:
    ‘David Shamah, it seems the only ‘liar and hypocrite’ here is you as you attempt to perpetuate the myth of anti-Zionism being anti-Semitism. No one’s buying that garbage anymore. Many of the sites you refer to are actually run by Jews. The quicker Israelis and Jews throughout the Diaspora reject the racism of the Zionist Jews-only Israeli state the better for all Jews and Arabs.’

    Surprise, surprise, it wasn’t published, thus once again, demonstrating the ultimate hypocrisy of the Zionists and their propagandists.


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