I have been having a running dialog with one Dr. Elias Akleh. My last post in response to one of his can be read by clicking on the following… ZIONISM vs JUDAISM … AND THE DEMONIZATION OF THE JEWS
I did some searching on the Net and found three excellent videos that deal with the question of zionism and Judaism…. THERE DEFINITELY IS A DIFFERENCE!
I invite Dr. Akleh, as well as all of my readers to view these videos and come to your own conclusions.
I have personal differences with one of the groups represented in the video, Neuturi Karta. I will deal with those differences in a future post, but I must say that the points raised by them here are quite valid.
Please take the time to view the following, if not now, then bookmark this page to be viewed at a later date…. but do view them, they are all eyeopeners for those that still do not see a difference between zionism and Judaism.
Zionism is Racism. Judaism is not Zionism

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Eric Vaughan said,
October 3, 2010 at 19:43
The best comment I ever saw on the topic was “It is not racist to be against Zionism and the use of white phospherous on schoolchildren. It is racist to assume that all Jews would use white phospherous on schoolchildren.”
Easterling said,
October 3, 2010 at 19:50
Where were the Zionists in 1492 Spain? Portugal 1497? Flanders 1121? England 1290? France 1392?
DesertPeace. Your strawman building skills are failing you my friend. PEACE
John Camer said,
October 4, 2010 at 02:44
The late Israeli university professor and peace activist Israel Shahak spent a lifetime trying to separate the tenets of Judaism from the more onerous elements of Zionism. He was never able to do so because in the end he found that they were in fact inseperable. Zionism was corrupt because its main concepts came directly from a corrupt and tribal Judaism. The two were inseparable.
What is presently going on in Gaza is nothing new. Whenever Jews have come to have had complete power over non Jewish populations the same sort of atrocities that we now see taking place in Israel seem to have taken place. The Jewish communist commissars in the 1920s and 1930s in the Soviet Union were just as brutal to Russian gentiles in the Ukraine or gulags for instance as the most right wing settlers and government officials in Israel are today to the Palestinians.
The several hundred year long “arendar” period of Polish history saw Jewish estate managers assuming total control over hundreds of thousands or millions of Polish gentile serfs. These helpless peasants saw treatment at the hands of their Jewish overseers that was legendary in it utter cruelty and barbarism. It became so bad towards the end of this era that a Jew could kill a gentile serf without any possibility of any sort of retribution from civil authorities. Crucifixion was often a commonly used method that these Jewish estate managers used to punish and make an example of recalcitrant peasants. It has been estimated that 85% of the Jews in these areas either owned or had a share in an arendarship. This means that a majority of Jews, not just an evil minority, were also complicit in this terrible mistreatment.
Israel Shahak specifically found that it was the utter contempt for non Jews that is repeatedly described in both the Torah and expecially the Talmud specifically made these sort of atrocities possible.
Judaism still awaits its own Martin Luther, someone willing to purge it of provincialism and tribalism. Judaism has managed to remain almost totally impervious to the changes wrought in Gentile society by the Renaissance, Reformation, or Enlightenment. What few true reformers there were were rapidly dispatched and have disappeared into Jewish non-history.. A free thinker like Spinoza actually seems to have had a much more profound effect on gentile thought than he ever did on mainstream Judaism.
Organized Judaism (OJ) appears to have always been an ongoing tyranny against common Jews and gentiles by an unholy alliance of (very) rich Jews and the more zealous rabbis). OJ has also always been able to thwart any true attempt to neutralize the more onerous elements of Judaism.When threatened by true reform OJ was always able to stage some sort of staged (false flag) event to discredit any sincere reformer and terrorize the sheep back into the fold.
Example: Google these words: Damascus Jews 1840 for an example of criminal investigation that was effectively used to almost totally discredit the leaders of the only true reform movement in Judaism in the last two thousand years, The Haskalah. You will undoubtedly notice as you read about this event how the wealthy UK based Orthodox Jew Moses Montefiore deliberately used the events in far away Damascus to both render harmless the Jewish reform (not Reform) movement mainland Europe while at the same time virtually destroying it in the UK.
After destroying the true reform movement in the mid to late nineteen century, the real leaders of Judaism, Orthodox rabbis and their rich businessmen supporters, , looked around for another way to keep the wayward sheep in both Europe and the USA in the fold. What they came up with is the neutered utter sham called Reform Judaism.(AKA tribal Judaism with bacon).
And the problems continue to only get worse. Most Jews don’t seem to realize that a seemingly “harmless” organization like the ultra Orthodox and particularity racist Chabad movement has an amazing amount of influence over OJ and US foreign policy. In fact its hidden power often dwarfs the influence of better known Jewish organizations since it and other organizations around it have become the main conduit of illegal and unreported Israeli campaign contributions into the US.
If the claim of this power seems to be an overstatement, consider the fact that Chabad is able to set up a thirty five foot high menorah on the White House law every Hanukkah season without a peep out of an utterly terrorized ACLU.
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Wayne Barbuto said,
October 4, 2010 at 04:07
Is there a text version of the video titled, The Difference Between Jews and Zionists?
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desertpeace said,
October 4, 2010 at 10:13
not that I know of…. try a Google search.
jeff said,
October 8, 2010 at 00:15
John Camer above would be correct. To understand Judaism one should read “Judaism Discovered” by Michael Hoffman or the Steinsaltz Talmud. The Hoffman book is a library reference book, an encyclopedia. Then all will understand.
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October 8, 2010 at 13:13
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